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FAMILY MEMBERS ARRANGED IN DATE ORDER

To the Wall family in Essex

c.1865 - 1901 JAMES PLUMMER

Born; c.1865.
From Peckham.
Parents; Charles Benjamin Plummer = ??
Married; Henrietta Ray (1868-1935) of Barking (as her 1st husband) on 2 August 1891, Emmanuel Church, Camberwell.
Children; Henrietta "Hettie" (1893?-19??), Lily Rose (1894-193?), Ethel Maud (1895-1990), Sarah Ann (1897-19??), James Edward Benjamin (1896-19?), Violet May (1899-195?), Henry William (1900-1979)
James was possibly a successful grocer.
Died; 1901, Sandgate.

1868 - 1935 HENRIETTA PLUMMER / ROGERS (nee RAY)

Henrietta Plummer c.1900. Vaudeville Studios, 103 High Street, East Ham.

Born; 19 August 1868, Rotherhithe, Surrey.
Parents; James Edward Ray (c.1832-18??) = Jane ?? (c.1839-1???)
At the 1881 Census shown as scholar, aged 12, living at 37 Maynard Road, Rotherhithe.
Married (1); James Plummer (c.1865-1901) of Peckham, 2 August 1891, at Emmanuel Church, Camberwell.
Children; Henrietta "Hettie" (1893?-19??), Lily Rose (1894-193?), Ethel Maud (1895-1990), Sarah Ann (1897-19??), James Edward Benjamin (1896-19?), Violet May (1899-195?), Henry William (1900-1979)

Married (2); Walter Rogers (c.1872-19??) of Bow, around 1905.
Children; Grace Eva Rogers (1906-1985), Edith Hilda Rogers (1908-1998).
The family were living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at the 1911 Census.

Henrietta Rogers at the wedding of Fred Wall and Ethel Plummer, 5 March 1922, Barking.

Died; 18 July 1935, aged 67, Barking.
Buried; Grave No.E 31, Section L, Barking Cemetery.
A memorial card for Henrietta is held in H.R.Gilbert's records. It is kept in an envelope bearing the inscription "W.Rogers, Lighterman and Contractor, 16 Greatfields Road, Barking."

c.1872 - 1929 WALTER ROGERS

Born; c.1872, Bromley-by-Bow.
Parents; Possibly the Walter Rogers born c.1870 at Whitechapel, son of John Rogers (c.1838-18??) & Jane, and living at 83 Antill Road, Bethnal Green at the 1881 Census, aged 11.
A Thames waterman / lighterman from Bow.
Married; (1) ?? c.1892. She was rumoured to have fallen from a bedroom window, hit the washing line and died in the yard below.
Children; Sarah Ann Ada "Minnie" Rogers (c.1895-19??) of Bow Common.

Married; (2) Henrietta Plummer, nee Ray (1868-1935), widow, around 1905.
Children; Grace Eva Rogers (1906-1985), Edith Hilda Rogers (1908-1998).
Living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at the 1911 Census.
Died; December 1929.
A memorial card for his wife, Henrietta is held in H.R.Gilbert's records. It is kept in an envelope bearing the inscription "W.Rogers, Lighterman and Contractor, 16 Greatfields Road, Barking."

1893? - 19?? HENRIETTA "HETTIE" PLUMMER

Hettie Plummer at the wedding of Fred Wall and Ethel Plummer, 5 March 1922, Barking.

Born; 1 June (in 1893?), Peckham.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
Hettie went to New Zealand after the First World War and was housekeeper to a businessman there. One photograph she sent to Ethel Wall shows a panorama of a harbour shoreline, with a cross marked on it to show where her house was. On the reverse she wrote "67 Maupuia Rd. taken from the other side of the harbour." Maupuia Road is to the north or Miramar, a suburb of Wellington, North Island, New Zealand.

Hettie Plummer in New Zealand, around 1950.

"Hettie" died in New Zealand.
The following photographs of "Hettie" are held in H.R.Gilbert's records; 1955U/P25, 1955U/P25, and 1955U/P27, Hettie Plummer's house, New Zealand.

1894 - 1937 LILY ROSE PLUMMER

Born; 1894 in Peckham.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
At the 1911 Census shown as match worker, living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking.
Died; 1937.

1894 - 1968 FREDERICK GEORGE WALL

Born; 8 August 1894, Forest Gate.
Parents; Harry Wall (1874-194?) = Jessie Waller (1875-c.1925)
Living at 56 Wedderburn Road, Barking at the 1911 Census, tinsmith.
Married; Ethel Maud Plummer (1895-1990) on 5 Mar 1922, at St.Margaret's, Barking.
Children; Royce Leslie (1926-2009), Irene Ethel (born 1927)

Enlisted to the Royal Naval Division at Crystal Palace on 30 December 1914. "Carman", aged 20, 5 feet 2 inches tall, brown hair, brown eyes, scar on right cheek. Served in Gallipoli. Demobbed 13 April 1919.
He was a Driver (as in horses) so he must have been familiar with horses before the war. He was attached to the 2nd Field Ambulance, Royal Naval Division (RND) in Gallipoli in November 1915. Alter the evacuation in January 1916 he was sent to the local Transport Depot in Kephalos Harbour which is on the nearby Greek island of Imbros (the British HQ for the Gallipoli campaign). In May 1916 he moved to Mudros, another but bigger Greek island and from there arrived in Marseilles. From there he would have gone by train to a quiet sector in France.
The next big battle he would have been involved in was the Battle of the Ancre, Somme in November 1916. In February he was attached to the Divisional HQ of the RND, now rebranded to the 63rd (RND) Division, but a month later he was then working on the Divisional train, most probably still working with horses. I assume he saw the war out in this role. A lucky man to have survived!
Irene Ethel Clementson wrote "F G Wall Pte, 3 medals, R.M.98 Deal 813 (S) R.M."

Died; 27 October 1968, Barking, Essex.
Copies of Frederick's birth and marriage certificates are held by Irene Clementson, and scanned copies by H R Gilbert, Heathfield 2020.
Many photographs of Frederick from 1922 to 1966 (including a group photo at his wedding) are held in H.R.Gilbert's records.

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1895 - 1990 ETHEL MAUD WALL (nee PLUMMER)

Ethel Maud Plummer c.1915. Photo; F Sharp, 27 Trafalgar Road, Greenwich.

Born; 20 March 1895 in Peckham.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
Match worker, living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at the 1911 Census.
Married; Frederick George Wall (1894-1968) on 5 March 1922, at St. Margaret's, Barking.
Children; Royce Leslie (1926-2009), Irene Ethel (born 1927)

Ethel Wall around 1938, Norfolk Road, Barking.

Died; 6 July 1990, Stanwick, Northants.

Many photographs of Ethel from 1915 to 1959 are held in H R Gilbert's records, including this fine group photograph of Frederick, Ethel, and their wedding guests, taken in 1922 at the rear of their house at Wedderburn Road, Barking, given by Ethel to H R Gilbert in 1989.
Copies of Ethel's birth, marriage and death certificates are held by Irene Clementson, and scanned copiess by H R Gilbert, Heathfield 2020.

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1896 - 191? JAMES EDWARD BENJAMIN PLUMMER

Born; 5 October 1896.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
At the 1911 Census shown as tea warehouseman, living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking.
Died; in the First World War.

1897 - 19?? SARAH ANN PLUMMER

Born; 1897 in Bromley-by-Bow.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
At the 1911 Census shown as match worker, living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking.

1898 - 195? VIOLET MAY HARDING (nee PLUMMER)

Violet Plummer at the wedding of Fred Wall and Ethel Plummer, 5 March 1922, Barking.

Born; 18 August 1898.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
Living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at the 1911 Census.
Married; Alec J. "Jack" Harding, summer 1933, Romford area.
Children; Pamela Harding (193?-19??).
Died; Around 1950, of a stroke.

1900 - 1979 HENRY WILLIAM "HARRY" PLUMMER

Henry Plummer at the wedding of Fred Wall and Ethel Plummer, 5 March 1922, Barking.

Born; 23 February 1900, Peckham.
Parents; James Plummer (c.1865-1901) = Henrietta Ray (1868-1935)
Living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at the 1911 Census.
Married; Margaret "Peggy" ?? (1918?-19??) in 1938.
Children; David (c.1939-??), Barbara (c.1940-??)

Harry Plummer and Peggy at their wedding in 1938.

Harry was allegedly involved in the black market during World War 2, and also acted as a bookmaker (which was illegal). He also worked at the power station for a time, and ran a chain of sweet shops in the Barking / Ilford area.
Died; In 1979, according to his daughter Barbara in 2009.
The following photograph of "Harry" is held in H.R.Gilbert's records; 1959U/P38 (Harry Plummer & daughter Barbara).

1906 - 1985 GRACE EVA EVANS (nee ROGERS)

Grace Rogers (later Evans) at the wedding of Fred Wall and Ethel Plummer, 5 March 1922, Barking.

Born; 20 February 1906, Peckham.
Parents; Walter Rogers (c.1872-19??) = Henrietta Plummer (1868-1935)
Living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at 1911 Census.
Married; Wally Evans (190?-1965?) on 6 Feb 1938 at Trinity Church, Canning Town.
Children; Peter Roger Stewart (1939-19??), Carol Elizabeth (1941-??), Maureen (1945-??), Michael (1947-??)

Died; 2 June 1985, Barking.
The following photographs of Grace are held in H.R.Gilbert's records;
1922/P74, Fred Wall/Ethel Plummer wedding, and 1947/P36, Clementson Honeymoon, Ramsgate.

1908 - 1998 EDITH HILDA ROGERS (usually known as "HILDA")

Hilda Rogers at the wedding of Fred Wall and Ethel Plummer, 5 March 1922, Barking.

Born; 11 August 1908, Barking.
Parents; Walter Rogers (c.1872-19??) = Henrietta Plummer (1868-1935)
Living at 139 Abbey Road, Barking at the 1911 Census.
Did not marry, lived in Brighton.

Hilda Rogers on holiday in Europe in 1959.

Died; 24 June 1998.

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